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Russia flies back into Cuban controversy

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Tuesday 22nd July, 2008

The Russian newspaper Izvestia has reported that the military might fly long-range bombers to Cuba in response to the US plan to place missile defences in eastern Europe.

Izvestia said the flights were under discussion by the countryโ€™s military officials but did not say whether the bases would be permanent or simply a re-fuelling stop.

The nominee for the Chief of Staff of the Air Force in the US has warned Russia it would be crossing a red line if it were to put nuclear capable bombers into Cuba.

General Norman Schwartz at his nomination hearing said later to reporters: "I would certainly offer the best military advice that urge the Russians not to pursue that approach."

He added Russia would be crossing the line if it did so.

Conducting long-range bomber patrols to Cuba would signal the military cooperation by former Cold War allies Russia and Cuba, and resurrect issues that first arose with the 1962 Cuban missile crisis in the heat of the cold war.

The Russian moves has come amid rising tensions over the US missile defence plans and warnings by Moscow that it will be forced to counter them militarily.

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Sammy
07-23-08, 12:57 AM

Russia flies back into Cuban controversy

The warmongers are on the move, they want to increase their warmongering, so that they will have more sales for their arms.

These professional arms dealers have no international boundries and they do not care about the loss of innocent human lives, but their only interest is to increase tensions among adverseries so that an agressive political climate is created so that they can sell their arms to both sides.


Sammy

angolmois
07-23-08, 03:35 AM

Interesting...

Apparently it’s only the United States that is allowed to cross the red lines with whomever it wishes.

slappy
07-23-08, 07:24 AM

Who does Russia think they are? There is only room on this planet for one imperialist nation to occupy any nation it wants. Its not like the US has any military bases or missles within 90 miles of Russia.

Anonymous
07-23-08, 08:53 AM

The western media sucks

Nobody should be surpised if there is a barrage of complain from naive american kids on this issues. Their media will decide who is wrong and who is right for them.

Anonymous
07-23-08, 09:43 AM

Controversy. Na.

Doubt wheather russia can put together one long range plane. Cheap and nasty and oh yes old. rUNT pOLitics.

scotty
07-23-08, 08:25 PM

Comments from lefty dreck

Why threaten the US with decrepid, and outdated bombers, especially when they have so many “Red Oktober” submarines - oh, don’t all those sink into the arctic ocean? Pure postureing, nothing more. How will these bomber make it to Cuba without running out of fuel somewhere in the Atlantic? Someday - really soon - Cuba libre!

Tom2
07-24-08, 09:51 AM

US start World War III

When I was young and naive I thought we were the best and everybody else was nuts, but now I realized the “lunatic fringe” elements in the US have gained power. They love war, employ hypocrisy and are arrogant know it alls. The US has zero credibility in the world. Everybody else in the world admires Russia’s stance against the American imperialist. The US missile defense system is a joke. It does not work and is just a way to start another Arms race to benefit the Military Industrial Complex. Truman Capote once said; if you don’t think it’s about the money, it’s about the money! Many in the world rightly consider the actions of the US as evil.

Obama the Poser
07-24-08, 06:14 PM

Who cares

There is no way that those relics are going to stay in the air for bomber patrols. They probably had to duct tape the wings on to make it to Cuba.

wacama
07-23-08, 01:27 AM

Russia is creating a grave mistake doing that and I do not believe Cuba will permit them use the Cuban air space. Cuba is change for a better country for the welfare of the Cuban people and I do not think the younger generation will permit the move of Russia.Castro generation is old and most of them are dying and the cell phone generation are smart and more amiable for peaceful island. They have experience the worst time of the old generation and they want change for better life.

Anonymous
07-23-08, 05:25 AM

[QUOTE=Sammy;92825]The warmongers are on the move, they want to increase their warmongering, so that they will have more sales for their arms.

These professional arms dealers have no international boundries and they do not care about the loss of innocent human lives, but their only interest is to increase tensions among adverseries so that an agressive political climate is created so that they can sell their arms to both sides.

And get access to cheap oil on the side..

just who are the biggest arms dealers in the world with new military bases spreading everywhere?

can"t they stand a bit of militarist economy capitalist business competition?

I read the russians have superior tanks and great fighters at half the price.

All americans have to worry about is swmall uranium tipped weapons getting into the hands of third world peoples.

galljdaj
07-23-08, 02:50 PM

More swill and propaganda from a bought mouthpiece.
Piece of what one must ask.
Anything coming from Castros mouth is lies and the state sponsored media is an extension of lies.
Try reading Animal farm Cuba is run by the pigs.

wacama
07-23-08, 01:27 AM

Russia is creating a grave mistake doing that and I do not believe Cuba will permit them use the Cuban air space. Cuba is change for a better country for the welfare of the Cuban people and I do not think the younger generation will permit the move of Russia.Castro generation is old and most of them are dying and the cell phone generation are smart and more amiable for peaceful island. They have experience the worst time of the old generation and they want change for better life.

waltky
07-23-08, 03:16 AM

Don’t even think it...
:cool:
US general warns Russia on nuclear bombers in Cuba
23 July 2008 WASHINGTON : Russia would cross “a red line for the United States of America” if it were to base nuclear capable bombers in Cuba, a top US air force officer warned on Tuesday.

]
“If they did I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America," said General Norton Schwartz, nominated to be the air force’s chief of staff. He was referring to a Russian news report that said the military is thinking of flying long-range bombers to Cuba on a regular basis.

It was unclear from the report whether that would involve permanent basing of nuclear bombers in Cuba, or just use of the island as a refuelling stop. In his confirmation hearing to become the air force’s chief of staff, Schwartz was asked what he would recommend if Russia were to base nuclear capable bombers in Cuba.

“I would certainly offer the best military advice that we engage the Russians not to pursue that approach," he said. The newspaper Iszvestia on Monday cited an unnamed senior Russian air force official in Moscow as saying that Russia may start regular flights by long-range bombers to Cuba in response to US plans to install a missile defence system in eastern Europe.

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` ~galljdaj+
07-23-08, 02:45 PM

This post is for waca inparticular.

old Fidel speaks on education... , and the Cuban People...

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` ~galljdaj+
07-23-08, 08:01 PM

The lying name thief poster of 2:50pm...

... , is attemting to post as me, and his posts should be considered in the lying he begins his post with, a stolen name!

Rollo
07-24-08, 10:28 AM

How can a registered name be stolen?

` ~galljdaj+;92956:
... , is attemting to post as me, and his posts should be considered in the lying he begins his post with, a stolen name!



Do you mean you registered it and they hacked the password?


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